TurBOOOH!!! vs. SupAAAH!!!!
#11
Originally Posted by jwikoff99
How about converting an L67 from roots to centrifigul? The thought has crossed my mind before.
Once we get the store cleaned up we will be carbing centrifugal units in cali but that takes alot of money and time.
Ty
#12
A small turbo will also have very little lag but the bigger you go the more power but more lag. It all depends on where your powerband is and a 3800 is in low rpm hence all the torque. It would be smart to just modify the stock supercharger on the ssei but it'* up to the budget and time you want to put into the project.
#14
Depends on the turbo you are using. The 1989 Shelby CSX and 1990 Daytona CS and Shelby and 1990 Shadow CS and ES came with an optional VNT turbo. Virtually no lag time. The problem with them was they were so small on them that overboost was hit quite often and then for those that did the exhaust really had overboost problems unles the computer was reprogrammed. Even with mods max efficient boost was in the 15-18 lb range (not much for a turbo -I used to run 20 lbs with my original Mitsu turbo on my Lebaron, and now have a Garret turbo capable of an efficient 25 psi with the Indy intercooler)
Not to mention they couldn't really be bled.
They were extremely quick off the line. I rode in my friends old 1990 Shadow CS VNT with custom computer, +40% injectors, exhaust, intake, big valve head, MP S60 cam, Venolia piston'*, etc... Needless to say one hell of a ride. He could run 0-80 about as fast as the average supercharged Bonneville can run 0-40 or maybe 50. He took it to the track a few times and best times were in the high 12'* which are good, but not all too impressive in the Shelby Dodge world where 1mid to high 11'* are a fairly common occurence. Once he switched a stock non-Vnt Garret in he was able to drop 3/10'* of a second from his e.t., but his 60' gained .2
Not to mention they couldn't really be bled.
They were extremely quick off the line. I rode in my friends old 1990 Shadow CS VNT with custom computer, +40% injectors, exhaust, intake, big valve head, MP S60 cam, Venolia piston'*, etc... Needless to say one hell of a ride. He could run 0-80 about as fast as the average supercharged Bonneville can run 0-40 or maybe 50. He took it to the track a few times and best times were in the high 12'* which are good, but not all too impressive in the Shelby Dodge world where 1mid to high 11'* are a fairly common occurence. Once he switched a stock non-Vnt Garret in he was able to drop 3/10'* of a second from his e.t., but his 60' gained .2
#16
Originally Posted by willwren
Why REPLACE the roots, when you can ADD a Turbo?
Since NOS is now ILLEGAL in Canada ( whereas before you just had to have a green stickie on your window that says you're carryin high flammable and explosive pressurized stuff.. ( don't remember how it looks like now ) and must not have the tube connected to the bottle on the street. to allow you to carry it since it'* not illegal to use on the strip.. hee hee.. ).
Humm.. but with the mention of Water injection.. I may have to look that up to see if it'* illegal or not on Ontario.
#17
!?!?!?!?!?!!? NOS is Illegal In Ontario?!!?! Gah I go there all the time and I guess Ill have to go with a turbo instead of NOS cuz I love the Canadians and also the Casinos in Sarnia
#18
wow!!! thanks guys! I'm not actually adding a turbo or super any time soon i was just wondering for general knowledge.
One other thing: I don't think I have ever seen a 4-cyl car with a superchager. Can they only be installed on larger engines? (engines that actually more liters than a jug of sprite)
BTW: I read a cool comparison test article on some big sedans with turbos and supers. http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=6567
One other thing: I don't think I have ever seen a 4-cyl car with a superchager. Can they only be installed on larger engines? (engines that actually more liters than a jug of sprite)
BTW: I read a cool comparison test article on some big sedans with turbos and supers. http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=6567
#19
A co-worker of mine installed an Eaton M45 blower on a 4-cylinder Jetta. I can still romp his *** anywhere, any time. Like I tell him, no matter what he does to it "It'* still just a VW". Really pisses him off.
#20
Go try out www.jacksonracing.com
They makre roots style SC'* for Hondas and Miatas.
Turbos generaly just make more since for 4 cylinder motors cause they can more easliy take advantage of the high reving chacteristics of the motor.
Also go check out a new MINI Cooper *. They have a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine and use a smaller version, M42??? i think, of the eaton SC we have on our cars.
They makre roots style SC'* for Hondas and Miatas.
Turbos generaly just make more since for 4 cylinder motors cause they can more easliy take advantage of the high reving chacteristics of the motor.
Also go check out a new MINI Cooper *. They have a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine and use a smaller version, M42??? i think, of the eaton SC we have on our cars.