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Old 12-18-2004, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by smellbird
It'll work with any car, but boosted will see a better gain from it.
I remember my buddy did this to his '87 New Yorker, it definately helped it out.
No doubt it was a VIN E 2.2 TI
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How much should us NA guys use? A gallon if we get 92 octane from the gas station maybe?
None! Your goal is to run the lowest octane without KR that will make the most HP and with you being N/A you really shouldn't have any KR anyways.
yeah, but I bet I'm getting KR -at least that'* the way it feels sometimes -literally, I can feel the difference, and the mph'* and RPM'* just aren't rising nearly as fast with the 91-92 a compared to the 93 octane, and it'* not my imagination -the stop watch has ALWAYS showed more time with lower octane.
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Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
Dr. Jay, what is your setup when you did this? Pulley Size?
Mine is extensively modified, and I use a 2.2" pulley. If you have KR, this 'should' work all the same for you though....maybe I should put my mods back in my sig?
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Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
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How much should us NA guys use? A gallon if we get 92 octane from the gas station maybe?
None! Your goal is to run the lowest octane without KR that will make the most HP and with you being N/A you really shouldn't have any KR anyways.
I know for a fact that NA engines get knock, but not as ridiculous as forced induction vehicles. Sooo, every little bit helps
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I've been running it for over a year with no problems, but I carefully tested it in small increments for a long time.

I've recently found a local source that will fill a metal can for $7 from their drum.
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Originally Posted by OLBlueEyesBonne
No doubt it was a VIN E 2.2 TI
You know it! It could literally hold a keg of beer in the trunk.
If I remember right we didnt dilute the solution at all, just poured three gallons right in to a 3/4 tank of gas. We were experimenting to see if it really would help.
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Originally Posted by DrJay
....maybe I should put my mods back in my sig?
Yes, you should. At least until Dame pays his bill...... lol
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lol good idea
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Originally Posted by OLBlueEyesBonne
Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
Originally Posted by Twister97
How much should us NA guys use? A gallon if we get 92 octane from the gas station maybe?
None! Your goal is to run the lowest octane without KR that will make the most HP and with you being N/A you really shouldn't have any KR anyways.
yeah, but I bet I'm getting KR -at least that'* the way it feels sometimes -literally, I can feel the difference, and the mph'* and RPM'* just aren't rising nearly as fast with the 91-92 a compared to the 93 octane, and it'* not my imagination -the stop watch has ALWAYS showed more time with lower octane.
On my '99 GP GT I saw 0 KR when it was stock. I dont know all your mods but with you exhaust mods you should see none! Stop watch?. . . .I guess that is better then counting in your head!

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How much should us NA guys use? A gallon if we get 92 octane from the gas station maybe?
None! Your goal is to run the lowest octane without KR that will make the most HP and with you being N/A you really shouldn't have any KR anyways.
I know for a fact that NA engines get knock, but not as ridiculous as forced induction vehicles. Sooo, every little bit helps
Yes N/A engines get knock, I never said that they didn't, I said that they shouldn't. Should N/A 3800'* Prob. Not. On L36'* with the higher compression, yes it is easier to get KR BUT still you shouldn't. If you are a lightly modded N/A 3800 (as the majority of BC I think is) and you are seeing KR try jumping to 89 octane and that should help but the KR is prob. comming from not so good mods. For a lightly modded N/A 3800 to go to race gas or additives is just plain foolish.

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Dr. Jay, what is your setup when you did this? Pulley Size?
Mine is extensively modified, and I use a 2.2" pulley. If you have KR, this 'should' work all the same for you though....maybe I should put my mods back in my sig?
Ya I know that is why I was kinda in shock that you had so much KR.
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Yeah I was a bit in shock about it myself, especially because my boost pressure right now only reads about 2 nudges over stock...startin to wonder if my compression was bumped up a notch, that would explain a lot
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