Motor swap & upgrades IT"S ALIVE!!!
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you heard me right im FANALLY working on it 2+month after it went down and aout a month after getting the new motor.
Im putting this in the Performance & Brainstorming forum because im not just doing a a stock swap.
My current plans (some already underway) are P&P supercharger, PEM'*(homemade),94-95 heads(came with new motor
) and a P&P LIM
heres what we got done in the hour or so it was worked on tonight.
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I know it doesnt look like much but we got most of the wireing harnes disconnected and some parts and vac line taken off.
More to follow...
All thoughts and comments welcome and encouraged
Im putting this in the Performance & Brainstorming forum because im not just doing a a stock swap.
My current plans (some already underway) are P&P supercharger, PEM'*(homemade),94-95 heads(came with new motor
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heres what we got done in the hour or so it was worked on tonight.
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I know it doesnt look like much but we got most of the wireing harnes disconnected and some parts and vac line taken off.
More to follow...
All thoughts and comments welcome and encouraged
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well not that you guys are all that interested as of yet,
..but i got more done.
all fluids drained and everything unbolted that needs to be other then the trans, motor mounts and exaust
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..but i got more done.
all fluids drained and everything unbolted that needs to be other then the trans, motor mounts and exaust
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Looks like you're making some headway! The 3800 is a pretty easy motor to pull. Just remember that last rear bellhousing bolt that you can't see. It goes in from the motor side and threads into the transaxle. Otherwise you'll be tugging away and wondering why the motor won't come loose! :P
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Ok guys now its starting to look like something
motors out(pulled it yesterday, camera was dead) and today i started striping it down.
i didnt get out the camera till after the */C was pulled, but im sure you all get the idea
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I did a quick comparison of the original front manny to my new one
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Im going to lookinto taking the heat sheald off the old one(lower of the two in the pic) and put it on the new one (double it for better TB sheilding)
and it looks like ill need to get a 93+ EGR thingy
since the new manny has a male thread and the old has a female thread
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check out the cracks in the old one, you can see that at one time it was broken right off!
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and a look at the rockers that the old motor has
![](https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/peterg22000/motor%20swap/motortime015.jpg)
that is al for now, more to come tomorrow
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motors out(pulled it yesterday, camera was dead) and today i started striping it down.
i didnt get out the camera till after the */C was pulled, but im sure you all get the idea
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I did a quick comparison of the original front manny to my new one
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Im going to lookinto taking the heat sheald off the old one(lower of the two in the pic) and put it on the new one (double it for better TB sheilding)
and it looks like ill need to get a 93+ EGR thingy
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check out the cracks in the old one, you can see that at one time it was broken right off!
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and a look at the rockers that the old motor has
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that is al for now, more to come tomorrow
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Peter.. that water outlet coming out of the LIM.. tough to tell..looks like black plastic. If so..swap that out with metal before it strands you with no coolant in your new motor.
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More news is good news.
I got my front PEM done (other then sandblast and coating)
exterior welds done, I did ALL the welding with the manifolds bolted down to the old block to prevent warping... you should see how much **** went down the spark plug holes
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I had to flip over and rebolt the first two cylinder tubes to get a good weld on the bottom side (not compleated at time of picture)
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had only one crack, but it was a bitch to get sealed up (used the water test to know when it was done)
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porting done, its now very smoth in there ad should flow nicely
I got my front PEM done (other then sandblast and coating)
exterior welds done, I did ALL the welding with the manifolds bolted down to the old block to prevent warping... you should see how much **** went down the spark plug holes
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I had to flip over and rebolt the first two cylinder tubes to get a good weld on the bottom side (not compleated at time of picture)
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had only one crack, but it was a bitch to get sealed up (used the water test to know when it was done)
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porting done, its now very smoth in there ad should flow nicely
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