New Rules for New Drivers
#21
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Originally Posted by LittleHoov
i see their point. but then again not all young drivers are idiots. im a young driver and without sounding conceited id say im a pretty good driver. and the thing about only one passenger to minimize distractions is kinda b/*. minimizing distractions boils down to self control. are you gonna not pay attention to whats goin or are you gonna turn around and talk to your buds in the backseat? i understand them implenting laws like that but they cant regulate peoples attention spans and stuff like that.
#22
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exactly, people dont seem to grasp that ever time you get beyond the wheel, you hold your life and the lives of those with you in the very palm of your hand. sounds kinda paranoid i guess, cause that makes driving to the end of the driveway to get the mail seem like running the gauntlet...car style. but people need to take driving more seriously than they do.
#23
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i think the laws ought to definatly stiffen up testing, for proof this is needed, i'll give you a list of the wrecks he was in that i remember
late 2k, backing out of parking space, turns waaay too early, taking the bumper of his car mid door to tire on a 2001 taurus, no insurance report, girl wasn't supposed to be driving car.
west on I-30, exit 220, hydroplaned on exit ramp as it was raining cats and dogs and he admits he was doing 70, took out one of those 10 foot tall interstate signs
passing me in the 87, 35 speed limit, he got up to about 80 on a blind corner, if only he knew the road as well as i did, he would have slowed down before he hit the four poles that are meant to keep you out of the ditch, knocking them all over, i had to pull him out
that'* all i can remember, but i do remeber giving him hell about having 8 wrecks in as many months... either way i was sure this guy was going to fail the tests or be barred from driving for some reason, but he made it though testing...
late 2k, backing out of parking space, turns waaay too early, taking the bumper of his car mid door to tire on a 2001 taurus, no insurance report, girl wasn't supposed to be driving car.
west on I-30, exit 220, hydroplaned on exit ramp as it was raining cats and dogs and he admits he was doing 70, took out one of those 10 foot tall interstate signs
passing me in the 87, 35 speed limit, he got up to about 80 on a blind corner, if only he knew the road as well as i did, he would have slowed down before he hit the four poles that are meant to keep you out of the ditch, knocking them all over, i had to pull him out
that'* all i can remember, but i do remeber giving him hell about having 8 wrecks in as many months... either way i was sure this guy was going to fail the tests or be barred from driving for some reason, but he made it though testing...
#24
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Here, no too long ago, there were two kids (well, take that with a grain of salt, they were 15 and 16, 16 at the wheel) were in a mid 80'* Monte Carlo and decided to take a turn rated at 35 mph at about 85. They rolled the car several times, ejecting both of them. Both died. Immaturity? Yes. Lack of experience? Sure. But let'* not forget the main culprit here:
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
#25
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Expert Gearhead
I don't know if its been mentioned in this thread, but here in Ontario we have a system called Graduated Licencing. Basically it works like this
Age 16: Permitted to take written test and issued a G1 licence. The G1 allows any new driver to:
1. Operate a 2 axle autmobile under 5000 pounds
2. Drives said vechicle only with experienced licenced driver of at least 4 years
3. Not permitted on freeways or expressways
4. Not permitted to drive between 12am and 4am
5. Zero tolerance regarding blood alcohol
6. Passengers limited to number of seatbelts and driver IS NOT responsible for unbuckled passengers. The experienced driver in the PASSENGER front seat is
This applies for 1 year, it is reduced to 8 months if a drivers education course of 25 hrs in class and 10 hrs on the road is passed.
Then you take your first road test. The G1 exit test. Following that you are issued a G2 which allows:
1. 2 axle, 5000 lbs vehicle
2. Permitted to drive alone and at any time on any road surface including freeways etc
3. Passengers equalling seat belts and DRIVER is now responsible for belted passengers.
4. Zero blood alcohol
Following this one year G2 step, new drivers are to take a more difficult G2 exit test and issued a full G licence. The difference from G2 to Full G is you are permitted the legal BA limit of 0.08
So far, the system is working, and new drivers are FAR more responsible, the traffic deaths involving youth and young drivers is down substantially.
Age 16: Permitted to take written test and issued a G1 licence. The G1 allows any new driver to:
1. Operate a 2 axle autmobile under 5000 pounds
2. Drives said vechicle only with experienced licenced driver of at least 4 years
3. Not permitted on freeways or expressways
4. Not permitted to drive between 12am and 4am
5. Zero tolerance regarding blood alcohol
6. Passengers limited to number of seatbelts and driver IS NOT responsible for unbuckled passengers. The experienced driver in the PASSENGER front seat is
This applies for 1 year, it is reduced to 8 months if a drivers education course of 25 hrs in class and 10 hrs on the road is passed.
Then you take your first road test. The G1 exit test. Following that you are issued a G2 which allows:
1. 2 axle, 5000 lbs vehicle
2. Permitted to drive alone and at any time on any road surface including freeways etc
3. Passengers equalling seat belts and DRIVER is now responsible for belted passengers.
4. Zero blood alcohol
Following this one year G2 step, new drivers are to take a more difficult G2 exit test and issued a full G licence. The difference from G2 to Full G is you are permitted the legal BA limit of 0.08
So far, the system is working, and new drivers are FAR more responsible, the traffic deaths involving youth and young drivers is down substantially.
#26
Originally Posted by TrueWildMan
Here, no too long ago, there were two kids (well, take that with a grain of salt, they were 15 and 16, 16 at the wheel) were in a mid 80'* Monte Carlo and decided to take a turn rated at 35 mph at about 85. They rolled the car several times, ejecting both of them. Both died. Immaturity? Yes. Lack of experience? Sure. But let'* not forget the main culprit here:
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
#27
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Originally Posted by smellbird
Originally Posted by TrueWildMan
Here, no too long ago, there were two kids (well, take that with a grain of salt, they were 15 and 16, 16 at the wheel) were in a mid 80'* Monte Carlo and decided to take a turn rated at 35 mph at about 85. They rolled the car several times, ejecting both of them. Both died. Immaturity? Yes. Lack of experience? Sure. But let'* not forget the main culprit here:
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
Succumbing to peer pressure. A strong sense of responsibility will prevent, or help to prevent one from doing something like that. And it can be instilled. But by whom?
Parents. Once again, it falls onto their shoulders.
(steps off soapbox, motions for next...)
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