I am beginning to hate this new job (input appreciated)
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Originally Posted by Darrel
going in early would be good... taking care of this on your time and not when you're suposed to be working is what you should do. don't give them anything to fight you with. sounds to me like who ever this person is has an aditude problem anyhow so i wouldn't get to worked up over it. talking to the manager is a good thing though. hey, they might say that they know shes a bit of a b#$*^ and not to worry about it! i've had that happen before to me! good luck though.
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Originally Posted by erics95se
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I deal with conflicts in a slightly different matter, bring the opposing party into a meeting whether it be with a coworker, a manager, ceo whatever if I have a conflict I tell them my opinion then listen to theirs and make a fair and just conclusion. A whiteboard or projector with MS Paint is always good, or even pen and notebook....We make a compromise and explain all sides and points, then go from there.
Works every time.
Works every time.
I'm going to tell him "Now before you make any choices, or decisions, i'd like you to calmly not say anything at all, and let me voice my problem, and what in my opinion should be done, and what shouldn't have been done, and what I feel violated about."
she was sitting there swearing at me over not knowing what to do.. i'm sitting there feeling plenty dense over the thing
..is this correct, you think ?
The icing on the cake would be to ask that you be instructed omn proper procedure the next time you are asked to clean the bathrooms. Even if you hate that particular duty, make it appear you are more than happy to do it.
And yeah, if it'* really that bad, your options are deal with it for the money (harsh, yes, but we've all been there. Us old guys that is ), or move on. I've had more jobs than you've had birthdays. Some were good, some sucked more than you'll hopefully ever know. You gotta make a call and decide what'* best for you. At your age, quitting and moving on would be no big deal.
Originally Posted by GreenMachine98
Welcome to the real world... not everyone is nice as people on here.... just dont wuit just because your manager swears even if it is directed at you, cause if it gets too bad there is this awesome thing call H.R. go talk with them
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I agree with Ryan'* point of view. You will run into all kinds of supervisors and customers in your life'* work, in most any kind of work. You have to learn how to deal with all kinds of situations with some degree of grace and composure. People may talk to you in many different ways...but the onus is on you as to how you receive and react to the information.
That being said, you have had lots of jobs already. As one who hires people, one of the first things I look at, if not the first thing, is job history...how long people hang onto jobs. That tells me something of the character of the person I am considering. I also look for the time "gaps" in employment, in case someone is trying to hide job-hopping.
You need to give this incident the focus it is due, but don't get overly concerned. As my pop always says, "Don't sweat the small stuff." Talk to whoever you need to, then drop it, and get back to work!
One more thing: if you go above this person'* head, be prepared to make a potential enemy. And of course, before you speak, always ask yourself, "What GOOD will come of what I am about to say?"
Good Luck!
John
That being said, you have had lots of jobs already. As one who hires people, one of the first things I look at, if not the first thing, is job history...how long people hang onto jobs. That tells me something of the character of the person I am considering. I also look for the time "gaps" in employment, in case someone is trying to hide job-hopping.
You need to give this incident the focus it is due, but don't get overly concerned. As my pop always says, "Don't sweat the small stuff." Talk to whoever you need to, then drop it, and get back to work!
One more thing: if you go above this person'* head, be prepared to make a potential enemy. And of course, before you speak, always ask yourself, "What GOOD will come of what I am about to say?"
Good Luck!
John
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You'll figure it out, I've been through several hardships with jobs before plus other people too.
But the most important advice that I can give you is NOT to beat up the manager or anyone else.
But the most important advice that I can give you is NOT to beat up the manager or anyone else.
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I agree with what MOS had to say even though it was full of typos . But seriously- you need to go in early, ask to talk with him and just explain that you had been bagging for 5 registers and put your time in, when she mentioned the bathrooms you cleaned them as asked and didn't realize they needed to be mopped. Had you known you would have done the job right in the first place. You were without transportation and your ride had been waiting for you otherwise to complete the task wouldn't have been an issue and you don't appreciate being cussed out by her and treated like a dog. It is not proper etiquette and shows poor management on her part.
I've had my share of jobs, I've never been fired but I've quit a bunch. I've told the people at Burger King to take the job and shove it and threw my uniform in the boss' face in the middle of the lunch rush. I was only 15 at the time. They asked me to come back and gave me a raise. I quit again about 2 weeks later.
I've had my share of jobs, I've never been fired but I've quit a bunch. I've told the people at Burger King to take the job and shove it and threw my uniform in the boss' face in the middle of the lunch rush. I was only 15 at the time. They asked me to come back and gave me a raise. I quit again about 2 weeks later.
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Originally Posted by GreenMachine98
with every job there is human resources.....
at both of the golf courses i've worked at the "HR" person was also my boss. the chain of command was: owner, golf pro (my boss), the me...
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I'm management at a restaurant so I know first hand situations just like these. First things first, employers reserve the right to keep anyone UP TO 45 minutes after their shift ends. After that, they have to let them go if the employee wishes to leave. Otherwise, an employer CAN request that the employee stay, on the clock of course. Secondly, if a job was not done in a satisfactory way, again, the management reserves the right to A.) Write the employee up B.) Do a "coaching counsel" where the employee is made aware of what they did wrong. I do not know what the task at hand entailed, but if the job wasn't done to standard, it is the manager'* responsibility to tell you what is wrong, and how you can do it correctly. After the explanation, the employee should be asked to fix it, then the manager should follow-up to make sure it was done correctly. Only after being asked to fix it should a manager choose to write-up an employee. However, if you are not trained to do a certain task, it does not show professionalism, nor common courtesy if a manager chooses to write someone up after they do a task they were never even trained to do. If you had mopped the bathroom floors and there were customers, what would happen if one slipped and fell? Were you ever told that you must use a wet floor sign BEFORE you even start mopping? If you weren't trained doing the task-at-hand, there is no way an employer can make a rational argument for you not completing the task up to standard.. You were never TOLD the standard. (I'm only assuming here you were never trained in bathroom cleaning 101.)
What I suggest doing is talking to the manager involved in this. It'* often not such a great idea to bypass managers and going directly to their boss. Often, if an employee has a problem with one of the shift managers, I will ask them why they didn't try to resolve the problem with them FIRST. Don't get uppers involved unless you can't work out your difference with the lower manager. This problem seems pretty minor, so I do NOT recommend contacting the HR department over a matter like this... they're not going to do anything about it, trust me. Your boss, and the managers under him will NOT appreciate that at all. Take the correct mediums to correcting the problem; follow the chain of command.
What I suggest doing is talking to the manager involved in this. It'* often not such a great idea to bypass managers and going directly to their boss. Often, if an employee has a problem with one of the shift managers, I will ask them why they didn't try to resolve the problem with them FIRST. Don't get uppers involved unless you can't work out your difference with the lower manager. This problem seems pretty minor, so I do NOT recommend contacting the HR department over a matter like this... they're not going to do anything about it, trust me. Your boss, and the managers under him will NOT appreciate that at all. Take the correct mediums to correcting the problem; follow the chain of command.