Draft to be started spring 2005
05-27-2004, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim W
Fabrication and filters...wonderful 
05-27-2004, 03:54 PM
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Regardless, the public deserves a trusted voice, not the CNN cookie cutter homogenized version of the news or current events.
But lets not get too off topic. The draft is wrong, the war is wrong, bring the soldiers home, let try to rebuild Americas repuation and be done with it. Every news source can sit on that speech and spin
But lets not get too off topic. The draft is wrong, the war is wrong, bring the soldiers home, let try to rebuild Americas repuation and be done with it. Every news source can sit on that speech and spin
05-27-2004, 04:57 PM
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Mmmmm, Cookie Cutter! grrrrrrrr 
Frankly, I am more concerned with other countries reputations then America. When they ask for some help again, I would hate to see them not get any because they opposed removing Saddam from power. But America always helps out, I dont think the reputation is lost anywhere.
Frankly, I am more concerned with other countries reputations then America. When they ask for some help again, I would hate to see them not get any because they opposed removing Saddam from power. But America always helps out, I dont think the reputation is lost anywhere.
05-27-2004, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SSEimatt93
Originally Posted by Jim W
C'mon up...lotsa room..
Only 28 million ppl here
Only 28 million ppl here
If Australia didnt draft people during WW2, Australia would now belong to the Japanese......
05-27-2004, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ren
I personally do not want to see a draft, because then I would have to lead a bunch of sorry, barely qualified, nintendo generation, fat, lazy, living with there parents until they are 30yrs old, people like yourselves. If this doesn't apply to you than I apologize.
I am disgusted with all the comments from idiots that say they support the soldiers serving now, but wouldn't serve themselves. Hypocrites. How many of you have been to other countries? Like Germany, Poland, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq. Maybe you would get a dose of reality by traveling around the world and seeing just how good you have it here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Why wait? Move to Canada now please. Make room for some legal immigrants that want to be here and to serve the Country they live in and contribute to the freedom we all enjoy every day of our lives here in America.
So many people take for granted how good we have it here, I'll admit I used to take it for granted also, but after seeing what I have seen, I don't think any of you would feel that way any longer.
I've served in two wars, and am still serving in the Armed Forces of the Greatest Country in the World. Many Canadians have lost their lives serving overseas also, I salute every member of any Allied Military Forces that contribute to the war.
I missed the birth of my second daughter because I was in Baghdad last year, yeah it sucked, but I would go again in a minute if called to do so.
Our Commander in Chief is the best President we've had since his father left office. I will vote for him again this year, anyone who doesn't vote for Bush is NOT supporting the troops. I know, I've served in the Army since 1989, under both Democratic and Republican leadership, I know which type of administration is best for my fellow soldiers and I.
I am disgusted with all the comments from idiots that say they support the soldiers serving now, but wouldn't serve themselves. Hypocrites. How many of you have been to other countries? Like Germany, Poland, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq. Maybe you would get a dose of reality by traveling around the world and seeing just how good you have it here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Why wait? Move to Canada now please. Make room for some legal immigrants that want to be here and to serve the Country they live in and contribute to the freedom we all enjoy every day of our lives here in America.
So many people take for granted how good we have it here, I'll admit I used to take it for granted also, but after seeing what I have seen, I don't think any of you would feel that way any longer.
I've served in two wars, and am still serving in the Armed Forces of the Greatest Country in the World. Many Canadians have lost their lives serving overseas also, I salute every member of any Allied Military Forces that contribute to the war.
I missed the birth of my second daughter because I was in Baghdad last year, yeah it sucked, but I would go again in a minute if called to do so.
Our Commander in Chief is the best President we've had since his father left office. I will vote for him again this year, anyone who doesn't vote for Bush is NOT supporting the troops. I know, I've served in the Army since 1989, under both Democratic and Republican leadership, I know which type of administration is best for my fellow soldiers and I.
05-27-2004, 06:35 PM
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Ren, I totally agree with you. And thank you for serving this Country (and the other countries that rely on us), without people like you our country would be Japanese or German now. You are a hero.
And by the way, I am an Australian now living in the USA which I have made my home. I am getting my US citizenship this year and if it came down to it (and I was about 10 years younger), I would pick up a gun and fight for America.
Someone has to, since there seems to be so many people here that just want others to take care of the problems. (Michael Moore and his supporters certainly won't). I dont like war either, but if its them or me, I choose me and my family and my country. And if YOU dont fight now, then YOUR KIDS will be fighting in 10 years and your Grandkids in 30 years.
For those who "support the troups" but decry the war and the government, read below and then see if you still make sense !!
Definition of support.... From the DIctionary....
1: To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2: To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3: To be capable of bearing; withstand: “His flaw'd heart... too weak the conflict to support” (Shakespeare).
4: To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5: To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
And by the way, I am an Australian now living in the USA which I have made my home. I am getting my US citizenship this year and if it came down to it (and I was about 10 years younger), I would pick up a gun and fight for America.
Someone has to, since there seems to be so many people here that just want others to take care of the problems. (Michael Moore and his supporters certainly won't). I dont like war either, but if its them or me, I choose me and my family and my country. And if YOU dont fight now, then YOUR KIDS will be fighting in 10 years and your Grandkids in 30 years.
For those who "support the troups" but decry the war and the government, read below and then see if you still make sense !!
Definition of support.... From the DIctionary....
1: To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2: To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3: To be capable of bearing; withstand: “His flaw'd heart... too weak the conflict to support” (Shakespeare).
4: To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5: To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
05-27-2004, 06:44 PM
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For those who "support the troups" but decry the war and the government, read below and then see if you still make sense !!
Definition of support.... From the DIctionary....
1: To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2: To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3: To be capable of bearing; withstand: “His flaw'd heart... too weak the conflict to support” (Shakespeare).
4: To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5: To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
Definition of support.... From the DIctionary....
1: To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2: To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3: To be capable of bearing; withstand: “His flaw'd heart... too weak the conflict to support” (Shakespeare).
4: To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5: To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
05-27-2004, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bonnie94sse
I WOULD fight in a war if my country was directly attacked and was needed, especially if it was in the US.
And by those very definitions (particularly the last two), it still remains that you can support troops but not agree with the war.
05-27-2004, 06:50 PM
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Thats a good post along. It feels like people are just getting really angry by what is happening in the War. They care about the soldiers and everyday we hear how another service member has fallen, and after the first one, that really starts to get to people. Most people dont like war, and I dont either, but the cause is just. The president is getting flak just like his dad did, butI think it is good of him that he is staying on course and finishing the plan. Its a good idea on how the government is contracting out people with law enforcement background to work in Iraq to replace the soldiers and mp'*. I would be scared as hell if I got drafted, but I would go. Even if the war is not a good cause, my country is calling me out and instead of backing down, I got to face what the real world throws at me. Its a shame when reporters say how much money is being wasted on a cause like this, while instead schools could be benefiting from the money, but we all know know matter how much money is dumped into school systems, there will always be dropouts, dumbass'*, and slackers.
05-27-2004, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by along
Originally Posted by bonnie94sse
I WOULD fight in a war if my country was directly attacked and was needed, especially if it was in the US.
And by those very definitions (particularly the last two), it still remains that you can support troops but not agree with the war.