Dealership rip-off - May 14, 2008 update - PAGE 22
#51
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From: In your garage, swipin' da lug nutz
Though he may never pay it, it WILL show up on the credit reports as a judgement which will stick far longer than any news report or police report for that matter. Another thing you can do (maybe) is hand out flyers near his business (like post on bulliten boards at the local gas stations, supermarkets, laundry mats, chinese restaraunts, etc.) telling people NOT to do business with him and list your reasons. But be careful how you word those...he could countersue for deformation of character. In other words, do not slander the person, slander the ethics of the business.
#53
Go get em bonnie94!
Here'* to hoping i see this on the news at 10 sometime soon.
I can see it already.
"Tonight on the news at ten.....
Scumbag dealerships and the scumbags that run them...
Should you be afraid? Our experts say H*** YEAH!...They're scumbags!"
And remember I'm am but a few minutes away. And i've got some PVC pipe laying around
that bears a striking resemblance to a spud gun. Got tator? OMG just kidding. No need to flame me.
Good luck man. Not that i can do anything for ya but, I'm here for ya!
Rubix
Here'* to hoping i see this on the news at 10 sometime soon.
I can see it already.
"Tonight on the news at ten.....
Scumbag dealerships and the scumbags that run them...
Should you be afraid? Our experts say H*** YEAH!...They're scumbags!"
And remember I'm am but a few minutes away. And i've got some PVC pipe laying around
that bears a striking resemblance to a spud gun. Got tator? OMG just kidding. No need to flame me.
Good luck man. Not that i can do anything for ya but, I'm here for ya!
Rubix
#55
This guy is the owner. And it is basically him and one other sales guy as far as I know (small dealership). If he wasn't the owner I would have had him fired by now. Although, if he wasn't the owner, whoever was would probably be behind the whole mess anyway.
It wouldn't hurt going to the police I suppose, just to get their POV on the issue. The news may also ask me if I contacted the police to begin with.
I will definitely be careful what I say about him. Though I would tell the whole truth, he would disagree with me (like he already has) and probably sue me anyway.
It wouldn't hurt going to the police I suppose, just to get their POV on the issue. The news may also ask me if I contacted the police to begin with.
I will definitely be careful what I say about him. Though I would tell the whole truth, he would disagree with me (like he already has) and probably sue me anyway.
#56
He won't sue you.
Sueing **Other than in small claims court** is almost always totally counter-productive unless it'* over a large amount of money and you have a solid guarantee you'll win your case. There'* nothing he can sue you for, so he won't. Almost all states have a clause that make the losing party in a Civil lawsuit pay the legal expenses of the winning party. The result of this type of clause is that it keeps trivial lawsuits out of the courts. The dealer won't sue you for, say, "Defamation of character" if there'* a solid chance that he'll have to pay the thousands of dollars that your contingency-based lawyer will charge him for a retainer fee if/when the dealer'* case is lost, or more likely thrown out. There is no case, he won't sue you.
But I would also advise you to neither picket/hand out bulletins, nor tell him you went to the local news, because this could be interpreted as a threat or extortion. Just let the news station do their thing.
Yes, you could go to the police for the theft of your floormats, and for vandalism of any unauthorized wear and tear they put on your car. I'm sure that if you left the car with them for them to try to sell, that there was either some verbal or written agreement that let them show the car and let prospective buyers test drive it. But really, an EIGHTEEN MILE LOOP? Get a friend to go there and test drive a car, and see if they really have an eighteen mile loop. It will help your small claims case when your friend is only taken on a 5 mile loop.
Sueing **Other than in small claims court** is almost always totally counter-productive unless it'* over a large amount of money and you have a solid guarantee you'll win your case. There'* nothing he can sue you for, so he won't. Almost all states have a clause that make the losing party in a Civil lawsuit pay the legal expenses of the winning party. The result of this type of clause is that it keeps trivial lawsuits out of the courts. The dealer won't sue you for, say, "Defamation of character" if there'* a solid chance that he'll have to pay the thousands of dollars that your contingency-based lawyer will charge him for a retainer fee if/when the dealer'* case is lost, or more likely thrown out. There is no case, he won't sue you.
But I would also advise you to neither picket/hand out bulletins, nor tell him you went to the local news, because this could be interpreted as a threat or extortion. Just let the news station do their thing.
Yes, you could go to the police for the theft of your floormats, and for vandalism of any unauthorized wear and tear they put on your car. I'm sure that if you left the car with them for them to try to sell, that there was either some verbal or written agreement that let them show the car and let prospective buyers test drive it. But really, an EIGHTEEN MILE LOOP? Get a friend to go there and test drive a car, and see if they really have an eighteen mile loop. It will help your small claims case when your friend is only taken on a 5 mile loop.
#57
But really, an EIGHTEEN MILE LOOP? Get a friend to go there and test drive a car, and see if they really have an eighteen mile loop. It will help your small claims case when your friend is only taken on a 5 mile loop.
#58
Originally Posted by Bugsi
But really, an EIGHTEEN MILE LOOP? Get a friend to go there and test drive a car, and see if they really have an eighteen mile loop. It will help your small claims case when your friend is only taken on a 5 mile loop.
#59
That'* probably about all I have ever done. Unless you get lucky and get a cool place that let'* you just take it and bring it back the next day or a couple of days later.
Really hopin the News thing works out.
Really hopin the News thing works out.
#60
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Ha.... six mile loop... and the car gained How Many total miles in that time period? (too lazy to look it up)...
So...we've just established that he has lied to you. Here'* my take on this:
He or someone was using your car as their personal errand car...no doubt.
He assumed that you would never see the car again as it would likely have sold before you could inspect it.
It'* likely that you are not the first person he did this to.
As for your floormats, I guarantee that someone bought a different car from him, complained about not having floor mats, so he swiped yours to please them and then totally forgot about it.
I wonder who'* car he'* driving now?
So...we've just established that he has lied to you. Here'* my take on this:
He or someone was using your car as their personal errand car...no doubt.
He assumed that you would never see the car again as it would likely have sold before you could inspect it.
It'* likely that you are not the first person he did this to.
As for your floormats, I guarantee that someone bought a different car from him, complained about not having floor mats, so he swiped yours to please them and then totally forgot about it.
I wonder who'* car he'* driving now?