a friend of mine had an automatic 05 SE with the 3.5, and that car screwed right along, strong motor, wide powerband, nice ride! im just not crazy about japanese interior design

I would get a SE-R in a heartbeat. I don't know if I want the auto or the stick...but it has to be dark grey with black leather....droollll....

However, the SE-R is a huge step above the regular SE IMO, the gaudy rear tails are gone, the semi-gaudy headlights are gone, both heads and taillights are now smoked. Love it! I also really like the rims...

There'* a guy that I park next to occasionally that has a black SE-R. It'* soooo nice. Black limo tint, nicely picked rims, very tastefully done. I'll get ya a pic next time I see it.

Really hard for me to say for sure, from my brief look at it and without a camera. Plus, as I mentioned it was otherwise totally de-badged. It looked a lot like the R I posted from what I recall, but unless I got another closer look at it, I'd hesitate to call BS.

This guy had dropped it, heavily tinted and shaved it, so it'd be anyone'* guess really.

SE-R is NICE FRIGGIN car!
I would certainly purchase one if I had to

Did they start offering an Auto? I recall in '05, you could only get a manual in the "R"

yup, 6spd stick or 5spd auto