Weirdo idea?
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Weirdo idea?
I was thinking the other day about all the possible mods for a Series 1, and something popped into my head and wouldn't leave.
All through the process of having my engine replaced earlier this year, people at the dealer(i.e. mechanics, car-salesmen, service reps) kept asking me why I didn't just go ahead and move up to a Series 2. My answer was that I would have to change EVERYTHING, engine, SC, PCM, wiring, fuel system, and on, and on...
Well last night I got to thinking, "What would it actually take to do this?"
So I open the question up to the world in general:
What would actually be required to convert a Series 1 L67 Bonnie to a Series 2 L67?
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If you were doing this yourself, with the opportunity to build your car from the ground up, what aftermarket/alternative pieces would you include?
Remember, this list is for PERFORMANCE on a daily driven car, so no TVs or neon or wings or other crap...
Other than that, go nuts, blue sky, have fun people!!!
All through the process of having my engine replaced earlier this year, people at the dealer(i.e. mechanics, car-salesmen, service reps) kept asking me why I didn't just go ahead and move up to a Series 2. My answer was that I would have to change EVERYTHING, engine, SC, PCM, wiring, fuel system, and on, and on...
Well last night I got to thinking, "What would it actually take to do this?"
So I open the question up to the world in general:
What would actually be required to convert a Series 1 L67 Bonnie to a Series 2 L67?
--------------------------------------ALSO----------------------------------
If you were doing this yourself, with the opportunity to build your car from the ground up, what aftermarket/alternative pieces would you include?
Remember, this list is for PERFORMANCE on a daily driven car, so no TVs or neon or wings or other crap...
Other than that, go nuts, blue sky, have fun people!!!
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I actually thought of buying an S2 car from the junkyard, yanking the engine and piecing a hi-po motor together over a couple of months, then dropping it into the Epitome.
If nothing else, the cost of a junkyard motor is lower that the core charge for the INTENSE block and heads I want. So I could save some cash there.
Move up to an M120 or so for the SC(thinking some SERIOUS mods here).
While I'm tearing the car apart anyways, I'd go ahead, strip it to the bare frame and get it de-rusted and re-painted(same color gray but just a tad more silver, in a candied finish), then do some stiffening and possibly install a disccreet rollcage.
If nothing else, the cost of a junkyard motor is lower that the core charge for the INTENSE block and heads I want. So I could save some cash there.
Move up to an M120 or so for the SC(thinking some SERIOUS mods here).
While I'm tearing the car apart anyways, I'd go ahead, strip it to the bare frame and get it de-rusted and re-painted(same color gray but just a tad more silver, in a candied finish), then do some stiffening and possibly install a disccreet rollcage.
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Originally Posted by GonneVille
I actually thought of buying an S2 car from the junkyard, yanking the engine and piecing a hi-po motor together over a couple of months, then dropping it into the Epitome.
If nothing else, the cost of a junkyard motor is lower that the core charge for the INTENSE block and heads I want. So I could save some cash there.
Move up to an M120 or so for the SC(thinking some SERIOUS mods here).
While I'm tearing the car apart anyways, I'd go ahead, strip it to the bare frame and get it de-rusted and re-painted(same color gray but just a tad more silver, in a candied finish), then do some stiffening and possibly install a disccreet rollcage.
If nothing else, the cost of a junkyard motor is lower that the core charge for the INTENSE block and heads I want. So I could save some cash there.
Move up to an M120 or so for the SC(thinking some SERIOUS mods here).
While I'm tearing the car apart anyways, I'd go ahead, strip it to the bare frame and get it de-rusted and re-painted(same color gray but just a tad more silver, in a candied finish), then do some stiffening and possibly install a disccreet rollcage.
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I am considering the same thing. Got my 93 SSEi that needs and engine, and I am just waiting for the time and money aspects to become right. I would recommend having a second car though, as from what I have heard in researching this, it will take some time.
Good luck if you do go for it and take lots of pictures for those of us to follow.
Good luck if you do go for it and take lots of pictures for those of us to follow.
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When my tranny takes a ****, i'm going to do this.. as much as I don't want to, however. But you can thank Bill for making me want to do this. If you have OBDI, you will have tons of wiring to do.. if you have OBD1.5 it would be much easier.
-justin
-justin
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Originally Posted by beckstyle
You should give a line to Vital, he did it. He should know everything you need. If you want to do a S2 swap, you have the time, money, capabilities, and everything else, go for it. you would have one of the rarest bonnies out there!
I think you meant Sprial!
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Originally Posted by opensourceguy
When my tranny takes a ***^, i'm going to do this.. as much as I don't want to, however. But you can thank Bill for making me want to do this. If you have OBDI, you will have tons of wiring to do.. if you have OBD1.5 it would be much easier.
-justin
-justin
Basically you just need to adjust a few tables for sensors, and your Fuel table... Otherwise it'* all relatively the same.