Looks like I'm pulling the engine again. CONFIRMED, engine dead
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Dan . after looking at the brgs and other parts . take the flex plate and mount it on a wheel balancer with the cone on the inside of flex plate it has the taper and retest for run out , caution only spin by hand . just a thought
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Interesting stuff you are looking/checking Dan. I've never had the need/desire to do it and probably would have blown the next one if that'* the case.
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OK, tore it all apart and here'* what I found
First drained the brand new oil. Keep in mind this is after about 10 mins of running.
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So I started to strip it down.
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Not much left.
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After I got the top stripped, I pulled the pan. Looks like a thin film of metal down there.
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WAIT!!??!!?? What did I just see?
Well, well, well, what have we here?
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Off with the rod bearings. Only fond one bad bearing, but none of them were spun.
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Found a chip in the #3 main.
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This is what I pulled out of the pan. Non magnetic, or very slightly magnetic, so it'* a bearing.
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This was the worst rod bearing.
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Still can't explain the chunks. The cam bearings look fine. 3 even had a bit of sludge build up on them, so there was no contact there, the front bearing looks good, smooth and shiny. Very odd.
First drained the brand new oil. Keep in mind this is after about 10 mins of running.
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So I started to strip it down.
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Not much left.
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After I got the top stripped, I pulled the pan. Looks like a thin film of metal down there.
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WAIT!!??!!?? What did I just see?
Well, well, well, what have we here?
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Size: 565.2 KB](https://www.gmforum.com/attachments/general-gm-chat-88/80281d1683049635-looks-like-im-pulling-engine-again-confirmed-engine-dead-zj9ax.jpg?*=b25124950fcdb07817e01efaa196f605)
Off with the rod bearings. Only fond one bad bearing, but none of them were spun.
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Found a chip in the #3 main.
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This is what I pulled out of the pan. Non magnetic, or very slightly magnetic, so it'* a bearing.
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This was the worst rod bearing.
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Still can't explain the chunks. The cam bearings look fine. 3 even had a bit of sludge build up on them, so there was no contact there, the front bearing looks good, smooth and shiny. Very odd.
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Typically I don't pull the mains, but that chunk couldn't have just jumped out. That'* odd. I'd be inclined to think the shavings are from that rod bearing. It'* common and in line with what would normally be found.
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