Just So I'm Clear, L36 beats....
#11
I'm just a tad confused. I understand the L67 kicking L36'* A$$ from a stand still but from a roll, why you saying that it a whole another story? Is there something about the L36 I don't know?
Remember, do not race a 94-95 S1 L67. They have an underrated 225hp and will own you no matter what. Obviously the S2 L67 will destroy an L36.
#12
I've driven all the variations of powerplants except the 92-93 L67'*.
Honestly.. none are what I would call gutless or super slow.
At the last NEBF I drove an L27 about 120 miles in pouring rain. It did seem pretty dogish next to other cars I was driving. However...the car was far from peak condition, the fuel pump was dying.
Hopped from that into Singscountry'* car 00+ L36 and felt like I was in a rocket comparatively.
It is however...all relative.
Honestly.. none are what I would call gutless or super slow.
At the last NEBF I drove an L27 about 120 miles in pouring rain. It did seem pretty dogish next to other cars I was driving. However...the car was far from peak condition, the fuel pump was dying.
Hopped from that into Singscountry'* car 00+ L36 and felt like I was in a rocket comparatively.
It is however...all relative.
#13
Originally Posted by fantastic88
The only L67'* you could possibly beat from a roll are the 92'-93'. 75mph+ is the best bet. This is because of the variations of the powerband. At 75mph a L36 will hook 2nd gear. A S1 L67 will only drop into third. Both engines have 205hp but the L67 has a flat torque curve. At highway speeds its horsepower that counts not torque. The L36 will be at its peak horsepower at these speeds. The L67 will not.
#14
Originally Posted by fuelforthesoul
Series I N/A but Series I */C beats L36. But L67 beats all. Looking at this, I'm kinda disappointed that L36s aren't that formidable.
look at the cars that might be considred in the same general class as the Bonneville, cars like the Taurus, Intrepid, Maxima...cars like that. The newer Maximas would of course roast an L36, but the ones from the same years as a Bonneville might not be as much competition.
But i doubt youre going to find a non-SHO Taurus that can hang with a Bonneville.
The L36 is simply what it is, the middle ground between the L27 and L67. It provides the average user with plenty of driving excitement and more than enough balls to put a smile on your face, and still maintain some excellent highway mileage, for the people who want more, theres the L67....fancy how that works out eh?
#15
S1 WILL hit second gear at 70mph.
#17
Originally Posted by fantastic88
S1 WILL hit second gear at 70mph.
#18
Originally Posted by fantastic88
S1 WILL hit second gear at 70mph.
I can tell you that the 93 seems to respond to mods better than the 92'*, and we've long suspected that GM failed to bump the ratings to a more reasonable number in 93.
And at the same time, we have some 95'* running equal and in some cases better times than Series 2 L67'*.