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Old 05-27-2003, 09:48 PM
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I got a story like that too...LOL

Today I was in the right hand lane and a delivery truck was parked, all the cars ahead of darted around the truck, but I was stuck with on coming traffic in the left lane. A Prelude that was behind me tried to dart out before me...I had already started to pass, he finally decided to stop and let me go...mind you by this time I was at a stand still, preparing to let him go, anyway, he gave me a horn blat....I stomped it good, squealed the fronts (first time ever on dry pavement) and hauled *** out of there, I looked back into my rear view mirror...he was a WAYS back...LOL

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Old 05-27-2003, 09:55 PM
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Well the mileage doesn't annoy me too much cause I only fill up bout once a month or so anyway. Not very often do I get out on the interstate. Went to my grandma'* over easter but thats only about 50 miles one way. Got the speedo to about 120 before I had to back it off.
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How many miles do you have on the car now? And has the O2 ever been replaced?? I have a 95 Bonnie with an NA'd 3800 series II V6.... I have done as bad as 14 in town and 23 on the Highway... And this was due to the O2 sensor that the dealership told me time and time aging was fine... Before the probs I was getting 18-20 in town and 29-32 on the open road... I replaced the sensor 50,000 miles ago and thats where my milage stayed untill a couple of months ago, then it went back down again... I was doing 16 mpgs in the city again... So I got a new AC Delco O2 and poof the milage is good again... At 121,700 miles, I'm doing 19 mpg in town and on my last trip to WV I was doing about 31 MPG going 78-80 for most of the trip with runs past 100mph every once in a while So yes its possible for it to be the O2 sensor, But there are several other factors too... Has the car had a tuneup seince new??? Let us know...
Only 19,000 km or 12,000 mi :?

Everything that isn't in my profile is still original.

Since I got back from the weekend and filled up, I'm averaging 13 mpg around town...short trips of 10 min with heavy acceleration from stop lights.

What is there to tune up on this car :?: ...besides my lead foot.

I don't expect good mileage in town and 15 is great compared to my 400 cu.in Firebird.
But the 16 mpg on the highway last weekend in the Bonne is worse than I get on the highway with the Firebird doing the same speeds. I can get 20 mpg with the Bird.

Surely the 3.4" pulley can't be responsible for the poor mileage. All my other mods should have improved the mileage.
Old 05-27-2003, 10:45 PM
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make sure you're running premium... if you run regular in the supercharged engine your gas mileage is much lower than if you run premium. I know from experiene.
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In regards to flooring my car often, I baby it more now. Used to race every Friday and Sat last summer, a couple races a night maybe. These engines are tough but I have no clue about the previous maintenance it had with the last owner. My friend'* 94 has 148K miles and runs soooo smooth. But that had mostly highway miles. I get city miles 90% of the time. I hate it.

I thought my tranny was slipping about 7 or 8 months ago, but haven't noticed any difference since. Now, sometimes when I am holding 40-45 (cruise off) for no apparent reason it feels like my tranny downshifts or something. I can hear and feel it. This is in Overdrive, and I have to push the pedal down to shift up again.

Sometimes from a stop, it shifts to second quickly and with a slight "jolt" for lack of a better word. Do any of these situations sound bad to anyone? How much of a warning period would I have if my tranny was about to kick the can?? What kind of expense would fixing it be? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks for the help.
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Hmmmmm..... Thats odd.... Its possible that the engine is not fully broken in yet.. But I think your milage should be a little better than that... Dumb Question Here... Please forgive me.... Are you sure you were in OverDrive while crusing the interstate? This is where we get our gas milage at... Strange though, an almost new car with no miles on it and the milage is a bit low... Next time you fill up with fuel fill up all the way and run it down to less than half a tank and fill up all the way again and see what the milage is, But stay out of the Afterburner.......
I always leave it in Drive so, yes it was in overdrive.
I have always filled it up to the top and always wait until almost empty until I fill it up.
I keep an accurate log of every fill-up and then always reset the average mileage on the DIC. I've filled her up 54 times since new.
Before the pulley I was averaging a best of 11 L/100 Km (21 mpg) to a worst of 15 L/100 Km.
After the pulley, I average 16 to 19 L/100 Km (12 mpg).

I'm sure it has something to do with my addiction to the new found power and my lead foot. WOT for me is a norm.
Now that I think of it, the best mileage I got was when I was breaking it in and feather footing it at the posted speed limit.
That is really really hard to do now.
When you've got an afterburner, how can you control the need....the need for speed.
I am also suspecting the drilled 180 stat has something to do with it too. I am usually just getting up to 180 degrees when I reach my destination and have to shut it down.

I have never been on a trip with it on the highway that lasted more than one hour long. So most of the time is stop and go and short trips.

I think the only way to average over 24 mpg would be a straight run in OD for 4 hours or a full tank. :?
I have a hard time believing Will did it playing at speed with his new pulley in hilly terrain.
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Your driving distances just solved your problem. I'm talking 300 miles on 55+ posted roads with spurts into the triple digits. Coming back, with no triple digits, I got almost 30.

When they say highway mileage, they mean a full tank at freeway speeds, in OD, with the cruise on.
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Originally Posted by bonnie94sse
I thought my tranny was slipping about 7 or 8 months ago, but haven't noticed any difference since. Now, sometimes when I am holding 40-45 (cruise off) for no apparent reason it feels like my tranny downshifts or something. I can hear and feel it. This is in Overdrive, and I have to push the pedal down to shift up again.
(Following is correct for the '93 SSEi, and probably yours as well.)

You're hovering around the torque convertor lockup point, which occurs at 47 mph, so wandering up and down around that speed will give you a bunch of upshifting and downshifting activity.

How specific is it? Find a level road and accelerate normally to 45 mph. Lock in cruise control at 45. Now tap it up twice with the Resume/Accelerate button to 47 mph. (No, not the button on the end of the stalk, the little slide switch.) Each momentary press gets you exactly 1 mph increase in your cruise setting.

Finally, tap it once more to get 48 mph. Bingo, you'll hear it downshift into TCC lockup after it transitions from 47 mph to 48 mph. It'll release again if you touch the brake or otherwise fall a few mph below that point.
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That sounds interesting. Never heard of the "torque converter lockup point". Could be the problem. I'll do what you said and see what happens. Thanks.
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Does that answer the question from your thread? The scantool will SHOW you instead of feeling it. It really is worth it. That was the single best 'mod' I spent money on. Easily.


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