'93 SE incorrect RPO codes, cont. of ISC & ISD ques.
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Yes, I see that you certainly did break down the option packages!! By bad, totally..
I hope I haven't been too much of a bother here, I'm sure it is obvious by now that I don't have a lot to offer about these cars at this time, since I am just beginning to understand them. Hopefully as the project goes along, I can begin to "give back" some to you folks.
I did another internet search, and I found that RPO code Y52 is defined as "performance and handling sales package" - which leads me to think that there was some sort of window sticker paperwork, or some other promotion sent with the car to pimp out the F41 option. The car was sold new on Long Island, quite possibly a regional sales gimmick??
The only thing that is still a little funny is Black Bonny does not have the electrical hook up to the power steering pump for TFE (rpo T2V), and I know that it is original.
Thanks!! Mike
I hope I haven't been too much of a bother here, I'm sure it is obvious by now that I don't have a lot to offer about these cars at this time, since I am just beginning to understand them. Hopefully as the project goes along, I can begin to "give back" some to you folks.
I did another internet search, and I found that RPO code Y52 is defined as "performance and handling sales package" - which leads me to think that there was some sort of window sticker paperwork, or some other promotion sent with the car to pimp out the F41 option. The car was sold new on Long Island, quite possibly a regional sales gimmick??
The only thing that is still a little funny is Black Bonny does not have the electrical hook up to the power steering pump for TFE (rpo T2V), and I know that it is original.
Thanks!! Mike
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That electrical connector is very well hidden.... Takes a lot of hunting to find it.... I never saw mine untill I was replacing the Dog Bone mount under the car while I was rolling around on a creeper...LMAO...
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TROYPORT, it is no problem at all, See the first line in my sig.....I am the resident expert in the Bonne tirm levels and the RPO codes.....i have spent many hrs studing this stuff
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Ok, the parts car has the F41 suspension correct?
And the car that you use as your daily driver has the FE1 suspension correct?
The rack in the F41 car should swap to your FE1 car.... The F41 Rack is a bit tighter, as in you will move the steering wheel less, quicker steering I guess we could say...
The Sway bars on the FE1 car will be 30mm front and 18mm rear...
The F41 Sway bars will be 32mm front and 21mm rear<---- These alone will make a large improvement...
The F41 suspension is simmilar to the FE2, but you have to take into account that the F41 did not use ELC or Load Level... I'm sure air struts could be used with the F41 rear springs.... The front springs for the F41 suspension will be almost the same as the SSEi springs....
I'd be willing to swap all of the suspension components over, makes for a better handler, not for speed but it sure does make the car feel sure footed... Also makes the car ride like its not as big as we know it is....
So Far Willwren with his SSEi has a suspension that is very close to the F41, maybe just a step under it, His suspension is FE2, All of the FE2 systems utilize Air struts in the rear...
All of the F41 components are worth keeping... Good Luck
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And the car that you use as your daily driver has the FE1 suspension correct?
The rack in the F41 car should swap to your FE1 car.... The F41 Rack is a bit tighter, as in you will move the steering wheel less, quicker steering I guess we could say...
The Sway bars on the FE1 car will be 30mm front and 18mm rear...
The F41 Sway bars will be 32mm front and 21mm rear<---- These alone will make a large improvement...
The F41 suspension is simmilar to the FE2, but you have to take into account that the F41 did not use ELC or Load Level... I'm sure air struts could be used with the F41 rear springs.... The front springs for the F41 suspension will be almost the same as the SSEi springs....
I'd be willing to swap all of the suspension components over, makes for a better handler, not for speed but it sure does make the car feel sure footed... Also makes the car ride like its not as big as we know it is....
So Far Willwren with his SSEi has a suspension that is very close to the F41, maybe just a step under it, His suspension is FE2, All of the FE2 systems utilize Air struts in the rear...
All of the F41 components are worth keeping... Good Luck
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The daily driver is the black one, mechanically superb except the rack is worn, very well kept as the picture shows, completely flawless interior - not a spec of dirt, no sings of wear at all. I mean crazy clean. The rockers/frame rails, brake lines, fuel lines, floor gave up the ghost from the salt. I drove her until the floor just got holes, caught it before there was ANY damage to the carpet/insulation.
The parts car was worn out. I bought in on Long Island, drove it the 500 miles home to Ohio, expecting it to quit at any moment. Steering was nice and tight, suspension rattles are the sway links.. Burned a ton of oil, Carpet was soaked due to windows being left open, ABS, traction, security, airbag lights on. I made it home, and gutted the interior, seats were rotted. I then discovered that this thing had no rust anywhere, like it came from the south or the desert. I fixed or determined the cause of all the dash lights, so as I proceed and get near the finish line I don't have to worry about getting back under the dash to swap a module or something. I will bring the parts chassis down to a skeleton, except for the wiring harnes, paint the inside and underneath and engine compartment, then bolt up the engine, trans from the daily driver, and now re-use the F41 stuff from the parts car. Then bolt up all my black cosmetics, paint it all, reinstall the glass and all the trimmings, and last but not least take the flawless tan interior out of the rusty daily driver and put it in the fresh rebuild. It should be a very clean and easy project, since it will be a Sunday driver, I see no need to rebuild engines, etc.. Any words of wisdom or advice on these ideas? thanks, Mike.
The parts car was worn out. I bought in on Long Island, drove it the 500 miles home to Ohio, expecting it to quit at any moment. Steering was nice and tight, suspension rattles are the sway links.. Burned a ton of oil, Carpet was soaked due to windows being left open, ABS, traction, security, airbag lights on. I made it home, and gutted the interior, seats were rotted. I then discovered that this thing had no rust anywhere, like it came from the south or the desert. I fixed or determined the cause of all the dash lights, so as I proceed and get near the finish line I don't have to worry about getting back under the dash to swap a module or something. I will bring the parts chassis down to a skeleton, except for the wiring harnes, paint the inside and underneath and engine compartment, then bolt up the engine, trans from the daily driver, and now re-use the F41 stuff from the parts car. Then bolt up all my black cosmetics, paint it all, reinstall the glass and all the trimmings, and last but not least take the flawless tan interior out of the rusty daily driver and put it in the fresh rebuild. It should be a very clean and easy project, since it will be a Sunday driver, I see no need to rebuild engines, etc.. Any words of wisdom or advice on these ideas? thanks, Mike.
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When I installed the aftermarket rear air struts in Black Bonny many years ago, even at bare minimum air pressure, I had a noticeable lift in the back. When I bought the parts car with the F41, it seemed that the back was rather stout also... If I put this car together with the F41 and fresh Monroe air stuts, is this thing gonna look like a dragster? What about non-air Monroes... They have a little bit of "up" push to them too, being that they are gas charged. I don't want it up in the back end.
Also, what makes this car an SLE? Is it option package 4? (ISD)? Is the parts car and SLE also? it is the ISC, but the remaining parts of the ISD were added one at a time. Thanks. Mike
Also, what makes this car an SLE? Is it option package 4? (ISD)? Is the parts car and SLE also? it is the ISC, but the remaining parts of the ISD were added one at a time. Thanks. Mike
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Your car should sit the same, I believe that the F41 springs sit the car a wee bit lower... Not too sure how the struts will affect that...
SLE is given away by the Code H4U, this could be had with option package 1SC or 1SD... If its an SLE it will have leather.... But for it to be an SLE there has to be a code H4U
Here is my cheapie 95 SE, with rear air struts...BTW my air struts are also gas charged..
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SLE is given away by the Code H4U, this could be had with option package 1SC or 1SD... If its an SLE it will have leather.... But for it to be an SLE there has to be a code H4U
Here is my cheapie 95 SE, with rear air struts...BTW my air struts are also gas charged..
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SLE consisited of:
leather seating surfaces
leather wrapped steering wheel
power seats
power antenna
rally gagues
traction control
twilight sentinel
3.06 sport gearing
SLE specific body cladding
rear spoiler
silver crosslace rims
225/60r/16 touring tires
factory high flow performance muffler
there were only 2 options for the SLE in 1993....traction control and Moonroof
leather seating surfaces
leather wrapped steering wheel
power seats
power antenna
rally gagues
traction control
twilight sentinel
3.06 sport gearing
SLE specific body cladding
rear spoiler
silver crosslace rims
225/60r/16 touring tires
factory high flow performance muffler
there were only 2 options for the SLE in 1993....traction control and Moonroof
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Interesting stuff, very interesting. I talked with my Mom last night, she was the original owner, and she originally fell in love with the car because of the SLE package. It does make the car look nice. You mention the silver lace wheels, but my car apparently was overridden with the gold lace wheels.
When I bought the parts car, my intentions were to find a decent chassis that I could steal brake lines and fuel lines from , I found this car on Ebay and tossed a bid on it about 5 days before the auction ended. Much to my surprise (and dismay at the time) I won the stupide thing. Come to find out, it is a clone of what I already had, except for the traction control and F41 suspension, talk about luck. And, the damn thing actually made it the 500 miles back to my home!
Your red SE looks gorgeous, by the way..
Mike
When I bought the parts car, my intentions were to find a decent chassis that I could steal brake lines and fuel lines from , I found this car on Ebay and tossed a bid on it about 5 days before the auction ended. Much to my surprise (and dismay at the time) I won the stupide thing. Come to find out, it is a clone of what I already had, except for the traction control and F41 suspension, talk about luck. And, the damn thing actually made it the 500 miles back to my home!
Your red SE looks gorgeous, by the way..
Mike