2012 Chevy Cruze codes P0016 & P0017
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2012 Chevy Cruze codes P0016 & P0017
Ok I have a 2012 Chevy Cruze with the 1.4 liter turbo 4 cylinder no modifications.
Yesterday as i was leaving the grocery store I started it and it was running strange.
It had like a up and down surge at idle similar to when the check valve in the intake manifold went bad a few years back.
So I assumed the intake manifold check valve went bad again and drove it home.
On the way home I heard a few strange noises from the engine and it seemed doggy.
After I got it home the check engine light came on.
I have a code reader so I hooked it up and there 2 codes.
P0016 and P0017.
I googled what these codes mean and I read online it means the intake and exhaust camshafts are not on the same position as the crankshaft.
After more reading I found out it could be the timing chain stretched, chain guides wore out or chain tensioner went bad.
Either way I will just buy a kit with all those things included but what are the chances it could be the cam position sensors or solenoids?
If it is the timing chain whats the best kit to buy I have looked on Rock Auto they have 11 timing chain kits available ranging from $52-$185
Is it best to get cam sprockets too?
I plan on ordering the timing chain kit and then have a mechanic that lives about 10 miles from me replace the timing chain.
Should I have the car towed to avoid damaging the engine or could it possibly make it 10 miles with a stretched timing chain?
Yesterday as i was leaving the grocery store I started it and it was running strange.
It had like a up and down surge at idle similar to when the check valve in the intake manifold went bad a few years back.
So I assumed the intake manifold check valve went bad again and drove it home.
On the way home I heard a few strange noises from the engine and it seemed doggy.
After I got it home the check engine light came on.
I have a code reader so I hooked it up and there 2 codes.
P0016 and P0017.
I googled what these codes mean and I read online it means the intake and exhaust camshafts are not on the same position as the crankshaft.
After more reading I found out it could be the timing chain stretched, chain guides wore out or chain tensioner went bad.
Either way I will just buy a kit with all those things included but what are the chances it could be the cam position sensors or solenoids?
If it is the timing chain whats the best kit to buy I have looked on Rock Auto they have 11 timing chain kits available ranging from $52-$185
Is it best to get cam sprockets too?
I plan on ordering the timing chain kit and then have a mechanic that lives about 10 miles from me replace the timing chain.
Should I have the car towed to avoid damaging the engine or could it possibly make it 10 miles with a stretched timing chain?
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CathedralCub (07-28-2024)
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You are guessing. I guess you could hurt your engine by driving it. I could guess that the engine is already damaged. I could guess that your timing chain is just fine. Do you want guesses?
To get an idea what you have record for us the starting of the engine.
To get an idea what you have record for us the starting of the engine.
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I wouldn't drive it at all in this condition.
Odds are slim that both sensors went bad at the same time.
That having been said, it could be a few things.
For me, the next step would be to verify if there are any unbecoming noises from it, then after that I'd get real telemetry as to how many degrees of advance the PCM is commanding on each cam and the actual measured advance that is being measured by the PCM.
Are there any other codes stored?
How many miles on the car?
How many miles have you owned it?
Has it had any trauma recently?
Odds are slim that both sensors went bad at the same time.
That having been said, it could be a few things.
For me, the next step would be to verify if there are any unbecoming noises from it, then after that I'd get real telemetry as to how many degrees of advance the PCM is commanding on each cam and the actual measured advance that is being measured by the PCM.
Are there any other codes stored?
How many miles on the car?
How many miles have you owned it?
Has it had any trauma recently?
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I wouldn't drive it at all in this condition.
Odds are slim that both sensors went bad at the same time.
That having been said, it could be a few things.
For me, the next step would be to verify if there are any unbecoming noises from it, then after that I'd get real telemetry as to how many degrees of advance the PCM is commanding on each cam and the actual measured advance that is being measured by the PCM.
Are there any other codes stored?
How many miles on the car?
How many miles have you owned it?
Has it had any trauma recently?
Odds are slim that both sensors went bad at the same time.
That having been said, it could be a few things.
For me, the next step would be to verify if there are any unbecoming noises from it, then after that I'd get real telemetry as to how many degrees of advance the PCM is commanding on each cam and the actual measured advance that is being measured by the PCM.
Are there any other codes stored?
How many miles on the car?
How many miles have you owned it?
Has it had any trauma recently?
204,000 miles.
Original timing chain.
My wife has owned it since around the time we met it had like 20,000 miles on it and was only like 2 years old.
I got from her about 1.5 years ago she gave it to me because she got a new car.
The car overheated about a month ago because the coolant reservoir had a crack in it.
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No other codes stored.
204,000 miles.
Original timing chain.
My wife has owned it since around the time we met it had like 20,000 miles on it and was only like 2 years old.
I got from her about 1.5 years ago she gave it to me because she got a new car.
The car overheated about a month ago because the coolant reservoir had a crack in it.
204,000 miles.
Original timing chain.
My wife has owned it since around the time we met it had like 20,000 miles on it and was only like 2 years old.
I got from her about 1.5 years ago she gave it to me because she got a new car.
The car overheated about a month ago because the coolant reservoir had a crack in it.
Without that, I'd guess the tensioner allowed the chain to skip a link. If it was just a stretched chain, you would have gotten a check engine light a long time before a sudden chain would happen.
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bigz1983 (08-04-2024)
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Well it looks we are just going to sell the car.
My wife and I put a lot of miles on it over 180,000 miles over the course of 10 years.
Time to move on.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
My wife and I put a lot of miles on it over 180,000 miles over the course of 10 years.
Time to move on.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
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