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Old 01-15-2004, 06:53 PM
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No rush man. It'* still winter, so theres no use testing the car out to its full ability.

But we'll all be looking forward to it.
Old 01-15-2004, 10:41 PM
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An L67 with the stock M90 blower will handle ~11-12psi boost without an intercooler without getting KR.
I was getting a ton of KR (6-7) with 11 PSI. I may need to port and polish the SC and each engine is different but just to let you know. Backed down to the 3.4 pulley and ended up back to my very light knock (.3 - .4)
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Feel better, Rest up Dad. You guys are getting me all excited. Can't wait to get me some TOGS soon. Are you going to drive open headers to an exhaust shop to have it welded on? That will probably set a code if there'* no 02 spoof right?

3.8 to a 3.3 plus TOGs will DEFINILTY be felt buy the Pant-o-meter. Enjoy!
Old 01-16-2004, 12:05 AM
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Feel better, Rest up Dad. You guys are getting me all excited. Can't wait to get me some TOGS soon. Are you going to drive open headers to an exhaust shop to have it welded on? That will probably set a code if there'* no 02 spoof right?
I've got Bonne guts spread neatly about my garage at this point. There'* no turning back now.
I already installed the O2 spoof and I will have to drive with open header to the exhaust shop to have the CAT cut off and pipe welded up when I'm done.
No hurry here either. I'm really enjoying it so far.
Not much progress tonight. Had to go to a business dinner meeting and had a bit too much Vino.
Will have to wait a couple of weeks for the headers to arrive.
Just PayPal'd Zoomer an extra $20 for shipping to these remote parts.
Get well soon PDaddy.
Still no answer from you guys on whether I should stick with one heat range cooler on the plugs or should I go to 2 ranges colder.
The trick, I discovered with removing the plug wires is to pry them off with a big screwdriver from the end instead of pulling them. There is a damn spring on the end that locks them in place. :? Much easier to do when the exhaust manifold is off.
Old 01-16-2004, 03:04 AM
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Bullet, try one heatrange colder for starters. The headers will have you breathing better, and may help your plugs dissipate the heat. If it'* a problem, you'll know in 2-3 months. Then go 2 if you need to. Winter temps will help as well.
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Will - My stock plugs are NGK PTR4B-15.
You are using NGK TR6 V-power plugs. Are they one range cooler?
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http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/383040/6

Here'* some pics of where I'm at so far.
Next I will disconnect the exhaust at the CAT and remove the rear manifold.

The TOG header install instructions are tailored to the GP. It says that to remove and install the rear manifold, one has to remove the upper engine dog bone mounts to allow the engine to be tilted forward. I guess I will have to remove the Bonne'* front lower mount in order to do the same.
Has anyone done this......how about some helpful hints guys before I start.
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I have read through the intructions a few times for the gp and know what you mean by the dog bones. I'm not sure if this can be done with our cars, I was hoping to get at the rear manifold from underneeth the car. Would be easier on a lift too.
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The rear manifold will go in from under the car. Make sure the down pipe and converter are out of the way. And it is a tight fit from under the car. Sometimes a little force is needed to get it up in there. When you get the header and cross over pipe all togeather loosely check for clearence between the EGR flange and cross pipe. I had to slightly dimple the cross over pipe with a small wack with a ballpeen hammer. About an 1/8 inch.
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Originally Posted by PontiacDad
I have read through the intructions a few times for the gp and know what you mean by the dog bones. I'm not sure if this can be done with our cars, I was hoping to get at the rear manifold from underneeth the car. Would be easier on a lift too.
Our engines do not rock forward. The dogbones for it are not there....


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