Factory Airbox on SC engine
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Quit being mean to me or I'll change your signature again!
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Well I couldn't wait so I removed the throttle body screen today and just got back from a trial run.
Absolutely no difference in idle quality. Nice and smooth. It might have a lot to do with the much better laminar flow characteristics of the cone filter and smooth 4" PVC. I took care in assembling the PVC to insure a clean smooth interior. Used a dremel tool to debur and match all the connections.
I can hardly wait for an aftermarket cold air box. Hope it is custom designed to specifically fit the 2000 and up models.
If TY is reading this, I would even try your tube and connector. I'm not thrilled with the PVC connection to the throttle body. It'* not a long term solution.
The full throttle performance is noticeably better and the boost gauge pegs right to the end of scale.
I am very heavy footed
so it'* no wonder I'm only averaging 16 L/100K in city driving and short trips. I have achieved 9 L/100 K on the highway on feather foot runs.
Who cares about mileage when you can stomp it at city speeds and smoke the tires.
Absolutely no difference in idle quality. Nice and smooth. It might have a lot to do with the much better laminar flow characteristics of the cone filter and smooth 4" PVC. I took care in assembling the PVC to insure a clean smooth interior. Used a dremel tool to debur and match all the connections.
I can hardly wait for an aftermarket cold air box. Hope it is custom designed to specifically fit the 2000 and up models.
If TY is reading this, I would even try your tube and connector. I'm not thrilled with the PVC connection to the throttle body. It'* not a long term solution.
The full throttle performance is noticeably better and the boost gauge pegs right to the end of scale.
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I am very heavy footed
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Who cares about mileage when you can stomp it at city speeds and smoke the tires.
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Hey, wouldn't the CAI for the 96-99 be the same as 00-03? I think the only difference is the PCM location and the height of the compressor. Am I right? It'* only the Series 1 that'* different. Even with the body panel changes in 00, the guts should be in the same locations.
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Damn
Caught by my wifey
She agreed to me playing with HER Bonne as long as I didn't put toooo much $$ into it. So the $100 for the computer box and $100 for the *&B cone was very effective money spent for the significant performance gain and sound improvement.
The 4" PVC, reflecto bubble heat shield and MAF screen removal were virtually no cost hobby activities.
I can't help myself..well worth it as far as I'm concerned.
She'* telling me to go back to working on my 400 Formula firebird that is garaged for the winter and I have to admit I'm still partial to rearwheel drive torque beasts
Unfortunately further changes to improve the long term life and aethetics of Bonne'* CAI will have to wait.
Sorry TY
But don't give up on me. I'll be around for a while and maybe later in the year I might get lucky.
Will - maybe I will try to re-create your water injection idea :?:
For now.....the washing machine needs to be replaced and we need to re-roof the house..ouch
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She agreed to me playing with HER Bonne as long as I didn't put toooo much $$ into it. So the $100 for the computer box and $100 for the *&B cone was very effective money spent for the significant performance gain and sound improvement.
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I can't help myself..well worth it as far as I'm concerned.
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She'* telling me to go back to working on my 400 Formula firebird that is garaged for the winter and I have to admit I'm still partial to rearwheel drive torque beasts
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Unfortunately further changes to improve the long term life and aethetics of Bonne'* CAI will have to wait.
Sorry TY
But don't give up on me. I'll be around for a while and maybe later in the year I might get lucky.
Will - maybe I will try to re-create your water injection idea :?:
For now.....the washing machine needs to be replaced and we need to re-roof the house..ouch
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Ouch, yes. My roof was 6600 bucks. Good luck! I learned during my marriage when working on 'her' car, keep the trap shut. If she noticed something (which didn't happen often), then you admit it, but you also assure her how quickly the better efficiency will pay for the greater power!
Good luck with both cars!
Good luck with both cars!
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I will pay for the pipe (because I like being broke) and send it to you. I am going to send the rest of the correspondence through regular e-mail because the rest is a big corporate secret here at Domestic Performance headquarters. Ya that’* it. If you are still not interested for fear of your wife putting you in the trunk, just let me know.
We can go ceramic coating no problem and I have a deal on a better computer holder that actually works. I want to send you one. It is plastic and not fancy looking but it works well.
My intakes are the most expensive 249.99 but I was informed the low number of buyers makes it harder to keep the price down. (Mine are also made of aluminum) After making the part and the molds and then making a financial investment it just gets expensive. I will sell the computer tray separate on the site if I can. Once again it will not be cheap but it works.
Ty
We can go ceramic coating no problem and I have a deal on a better computer holder that actually works. I want to send you one. It is plastic and not fancy looking but it works well.
My intakes are the most expensive 249.99 but I was informed the low number of buyers makes it harder to keep the price down. (Mine are also made of aluminum) After making the part and the molds and then making a financial investment it just gets expensive. I will sell the computer tray separate on the site if I can. Once again it will not be cheap but it works.
Ty
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I have found a few issues with the computer tray option that I have heard complaints about in regards to other and my computer tray. My 2000-2003 intake is made for me not by me and so my ability to control the product is nil, but I have the product in my hand and the computer box is made for many applications (Gtp, Bonneville Monte Carlo) so if any of these applications are used the case is easily modified for each mounting position. I believe the other unit purchased by silver bullet also requires you to drill holes and requires rubber spacers to hold the computer from rattling. If anyone from this point on buys my intake they will receive a better mounting system than the rest but will still be required to modify it a bit depending on where they chose to mount it. I found this out late in the game so once again I will make sure your product is as versatile as possible and works as advertised. I am going to be setting up pictures and instructions so future not mechanically inclined buyers of any 2000-2003 intake from myself or in parts from others understand exactly what they are getting. My supplier suggests a proper mechanic installs the product but the fact is this does not happen so I will make mounting instructions for the Bonneville. You will still be required to drill holes in some cases or cut the case but I will make a template so you will not have to guess no matter what box you buy. Yes the template is 10000000.00 (free) but hey it will take me a whole week to make all the templates and gather up the vehicles. LOL
I was going to make my own system originally and I will but in the mean time if you purchase any intake system for the 2000-2003 Bonneville it will require some cutting or drilling depending on the location you mount it. I will be selling this product to buyers on this forum for my wholesale price. Contact me via e-mail if you want the product and if you are part of this forum i will send you a separate link to purchase the product.
Usually it will cost 279.99
249.99 plus the 30.00 shipping.
This price will not be advertised and if the deal I give you is reveled then I will have to discontinue the deal.
I was going to make my own system originally and I will but in the mean time if you purchase any intake system for the 2000-2003 Bonneville it will require some cutting or drilling depending on the location you mount it. I will be selling this product to buyers on this forum for my wholesale price. Contact me via e-mail if you want the product and if you are part of this forum i will send you a separate link to purchase the product.
Usually it will cost 279.99
249.99 plus the 30.00 shipping.
This price will not be advertised and if the deal I give you is reveled then I will have to discontinue the deal.
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Hey Will, As u know I mod'd my airbox also. My question is I thought the idea was to get more performance from more cold air. So why would I get more performance from the CAI unit which is still inside the engine compartment when my dryer duct sucks in air directly from the atmosphere?
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http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...pic.php?t=2269
Look at the link above. You're right. Cold air in combination with an open cone is the only way to fly.
Hey Will, As u know I mod'd my airbox also. My question is I thought the idea was to get more performance from more cold air. So why would I get more performance from the CAI unit which is still inside the engine compartment when my dryer duct sucks in air directly from the atmosphere?
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