Burnt Exhaust valve, Why???
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Burnt Exhaust valve, Why???
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I drove our SSEi Friday night over 120 miles with no problem, let my son use it Monday to go to work and he said he exited the highway after 4 miles and it had a terrible miss. Brought it home and I check for spark-ok, check for fuel injector pulse-ok, removed spark plug and found the ground electrode was half gone.
http://dougelam.com/sparkplug.htm
Check for compression, none. Removed cylinder head and found exhaust valve had a hole in it, No pic-already sent to machine shop. This Happened like real quick. Is there something I should look for to cause this???
I drove our SSEi Friday night over 120 miles with no problem, let my son use it Monday to go to work and he said he exited the highway after 4 miles and it had a terrible miss. Brought it home and I check for spark-ok, check for fuel injector pulse-ok, removed spark plug and found the ground electrode was half gone.
http://dougelam.com/sparkplug.htm
Check for compression, none. Removed cylinder head and found exhaust valve had a hole in it, No pic-already sent to machine shop. This Happened like real quick. Is there something I should look for to cause this???
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Here'* a decent site that includes a section about half way down the page on what causes valves to fail. In short, excess heat buildup in that cylinder. The cause for that heat buildup is the hard part. I've seen some plugs do that from too much knocking and the sound shatters the electrode. I'd think your knock sensors would prevent that, if operating properly. In theory, if he did put low octane gas in it, and then drove the crap out of it, it could cause excess knocking, and excess heat build up.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/ar1192.htm
http://www.aa1car.com/library/ar1192.htm
#6
Here'* a link to an old post on pre-ignition. Have you been hearing any pinging?
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...+plugs&start=0
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...+plugs&start=0
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From: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
As stated above heat is what did it. Is the piston intact? Normally the piston will chip and that chiped part will get crumbled up and exhausted into the exhaust system (usually the cat). If it did chip part of that could have made a hole in the valve.
Chipped pistons are the result of running to lean and having to much detonation.
Chipped pistons are the result of running to lean and having to much detonation.
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I order of your responses;
He did not have to refuel. His mother left him a full tank of premium. She only uses speedway premium.
We never heard any spark knock. After removing cylinder heads, I found no signs of parts in cylinder.
www.dougelam.com/pistons.htm
No modifications, YET, I did remove the catalyst media from catalytic converter.
After I removed it the engine developed a miss in one cylinder for a couple of minutes. I revved it and it went away, till now. I think the end of the spark plug wedged between the exhaust valve and the seat, starting the burning process.
Received a call today from the machine shop, said head was cracked in that cylinder and one next to it. Found one for $70, will pick up and have valves ground with other head.
Is this when I change supercharger fluid???
He did not have to refuel. His mother left him a full tank of premium. She only uses speedway premium.
We never heard any spark knock. After removing cylinder heads, I found no signs of parts in cylinder.
www.dougelam.com/pistons.htm
No modifications, YET, I did remove the catalyst media from catalytic converter.
After I removed it the engine developed a miss in one cylinder for a couple of minutes. I revved it and it went away, till now. I think the end of the spark plug wedged between the exhaust valve and the seat, starting the burning process.
Received a call today from the machine shop, said head was cracked in that cylinder and one next to it. Found one for $70, will pick up and have valves ground with other head.
Is this when I change supercharger fluid???