Wires from the coil packs to the spark plugs
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i am scared i may have really done something stupid
i put the new crank pulley on
i filled up the oil
i put in a new heater hose from the timing cover to somewhere near the right side firewall
i filled up the coolant
the car wont start unless you hit the gas
when it runs it seems to idle very very iraticaly
it now has no codes
when i ran it after it died the first time it made a very sickening grind which i am hoping was the bendix, but i am not sure
when the ignition was turned off the car didnt die right away
i put the new crank pulley on
i filled up the oil
i put in a new heater hose from the timing cover to somewhere near the right side firewall
i filled up the coolant
the car wont start unless you hit the gas
when it runs it seems to idle very very iraticaly
it now has no codes
when i ran it after it died the first time it made a very sickening grind which i am hoping was the bendix, but i am not sure
when the ignition was turned off the car didnt die right away
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techinfo says 34 is low voltage on MAF sensor so i'll have to pick one up tommorow... err today after work. $50+ core
im 100% sure i got the timing chain on right, thats the easy part, this computer controlled engine is about the most dificult thing i've ever messed with...
one second it shows a code the next it doesnt
the junkyard only had one bonneville, and i swear it was just a rusty pile with badges
i pulled the harmonic off a 88 olds ciera and the strut tower brace off a 87 olds 98, could i pull a computer off of either of those?
im 100% sure i got the timing chain on right, thats the easy part, this computer controlled engine is about the most dificult thing i've ever messed with...
one second it shows a code the next it doesnt
the junkyard only had one bonneville, and i swear it was just a rusty pile with badges
i pulled the harmonic off a 88 olds ciera and the strut tower brace off a 87 olds 98, could i pull a computer off of either of those?
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just thinking about it, the motor sounds like my buddies chevy 305 when the choke hopped off its peg, it kept lopping between idle and high rev, exept the car goes from dieing to 1500~ rpm
to "bendix" noise sounded like the starter bendix disengaging late
to "bendix" noise sounded like the starter bendix disengaging late
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ok, i think i about got it whooped
i put in a new MAF sensor
the car will run if you hit the gas intermittently
it tries to stall all the time
and there is a sound i can only identify as valve click on the left bank of the motor, this one really has me perplexed because as you know thats the side oil goes in so i have no idea why that would be lacking oil...
hopefully you yet again know exactly whats wrong man
dude, you really suprise me with your intellect...
i put in a new MAF sensor
the car will run if you hit the gas intermittently
it tries to stall all the time
and there is a sound i can only identify as valve click on the left bank of the motor, this one really has me perplexed because as you know thats the side oil goes in so i have no idea why that would be lacking oil...
hopefully you yet again know exactly whats wrong man
dude, you really suprise me with your intellect...
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cool man,
ill pick up some of that stuff
the valve click on the left bank is sounding more and more like lifters w/o oil, im hoping they pump up on their own
if i hold the trottle about 1/8th in. off the plate it will run perfectly but if i put it below it will go retarded and try to die
ill pick up some of that stuff
the valve click on the left bank is sounding more and more like lifters w/o oil, im hoping they pump up on their own
if i hold the trottle about 1/8th in. off the plate it will run perfectly but if i put it below it will go retarded and try to die
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cool man, ill run the motor tommorrow
ive got to get the air out of the lines for my afermarket oil pressure guage anyway
car shows oilpressure at 50 like it almost always has, but i'll have to get the air out to be sure
the car sat for a while before i got it... there was dust on the windsheild
ive got to get the air out of the lines for my afermarket oil pressure guage anyway
car shows oilpressure at 50 like it almost always has, but i'll have to get the air out to be sure
the car sat for a while before i got it... there was dust on the windsheild
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great...
i ran the car for about an hour this morning, sounded perfect...
i was messing with it a minute ago and it has code 22 and 34
TPS low voltage
MAF sensor low voltage
when it starts it goes to 2k rpm stutters goes to 1500 then smoothly goes to 1100rpm where it stays til i touch the gas, it then goes up to whatever and drops back down to 1000rpm
i have to tap the gas for it to start
when i pulled the battery off a min ago the codes went away and havent come back yet
i ran the car for about an hour this morning, sounded perfect...
i was messing with it a minute ago and it has code 22 and 34
TPS low voltage
MAF sensor low voltage
when it starts it goes to 2k rpm stutters goes to 1500 then smoothly goes to 1100rpm where it stays til i touch the gas, it then goes up to whatever and drops back down to 1000rpm
i have to tap the gas for it to start
when i pulled the battery off a min ago the codes went away and havent come back yet
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when i ran the car today, the code 22 came back, but luckily my new dealer service manual also came in today
so i started going through the steps n stuff
said to check the voltage on the TPS while the key is in the ON position
it was supposed to be .4 at idle and over 5 at WOT
however mine is.45 at idle and 2.5 at WOT
i think the .05 over at idle is just misalignment of the sensor but it still only goes up to 2.5 so i know the sensor is bad
on the good side my code 34 didnt comeback
ps i now have to hold the accererator pedal to the floorboard for the car to start
so i started going through the steps n stuff
said to check the voltage on the TPS while the key is in the ON position
it was supposed to be .4 at idle and over 5 at WOT
however mine is.45 at idle and 2.5 at WOT
i think the .05 over at idle is just misalignment of the sensor but it still only goes up to 2.5 so i know the sensor is bad
on the good side my code 34 didnt comeback
ps i now have to hold the accererator pedal to the floorboard for the car to start
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No Spark Click Below
I Had The Same Problem. The Crankshaft Sensor Sends A Signal To The Computer To Tell The Ignition Modual To Produce A Spark To The Spark Plugs. Click The Link Below To See What A Crankshaft Sensor Looks Like.
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http://www.msnusers.com/KarlRDormanL...e231v638l.msnw
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